Monday, November 21, 2011

21-11-2011 [20-11-2011 Food - Purify first or Offer First?] 2


From Facbook:-

Francesca Poon Dear all, please share your views on this topic. Amituofo. Lotuschef.

Xiaotian Zhu I think purify first before offer. 'Fo Pusha must eat before have strength to work' hahaha, DL has good sense of humour

Faith JunHao Purify first lhoo then offering. IMHO, actually Dharmapala who needs the strength, not Fo Pusa. But I think GM always purify them before make offering to Fo Pusa + Dharmapala.

In Cause and Effect Law – Sutrayana, one is prohibited to offer meat in front of Buddha. It will result that person be borned into 3 Lower Realms. Or at least on next reincarnation that person will suffer skin problem. <<< So I won’t dare to offer meat before do the purifying.

May I quote? he7... 

“A practitioner with actual attainment will TRANSFORM the wine into nectar, and the meat into CLEANSED food

Francesca Poon lhoo - hi jun, what is this?

Sean Low Haha.. Do u clean/wash your food before u eat? Or eat first and clean/wash them later?
And whom should be doing the deliverance? Is it the fo pusa? :)

Faith JunHao hi Fashi "lhoo" same with "laaa" he7.

Raymond Tung Logically is purifying then offering.

Francesca Poon hehehe! Logically!!
 Junhao dear, when u come chant 108x of 100-syllable mantra in ONE session with us, You will never Drop into the 3 Lower Realms. Hehehe......
Perhaps go read my article Tainted Food. You will get the answers.

Steven Thung cleanse all the animals/bacteria 'spirits' by performing our usual deliverance mantra/visualization & once all these beings r being delivered, wat is left is only food in its purest form tat can b offered to all deities. Purification of offerings ( chanting Om Ah hom only applies to non food item which is done out of our sincerity & respect to offer the purest and best offerings.

Francesca Poon Dear Steven, Om is universe Ah is Buddha n Hom is attainment or achievement. Just chanting this one with corresponding visualization One can become Buddha. This is in rainbow body attainment bk 3
They are not delivered but transformed into Buddhas! hehehe!
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From Email:-
DL is from theravada previously but is more to Taoist n she is superstitious n must do cleansing after white matter chanting fearing bad karma or she calls "dirty"

nice n simple person but her knowledge of Dharma differs from GM

I encourage students to take Boddhicitta vows n she said if break any precepts the penalties great so better not. GM said taking Boddhicitta vows is making a Boddhicitta wish to succour sentient beings only.
hahaha!
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DL thinks that fopusa think and act the way we human act? :D
This kind of conception may hinder DL in the future if she keeps on living in this mindset.

This passage from GM actually has the all-encompassing explanation:
[If the practitioner is pure, the wine and meat consumed become pure.]

This is simple but why did DL making a fuss of herself.

Although we know that in the end there is no pure or dirty, but I personally incline to purify first and offer afterwards --- just to show my respect that we always offer others the clean stuff, but doesn't mean that the 'higher beings' have to act similar like us.

Of course they can do deliverance without us performing the offering, but again it's to show our respect and intent since we are making request. A kind of courtesy.

It's still better to incline to the clean side rather than the dirty one while we're walking in the path.

Btw, what is actually the 'white matter chanting'? Is it the act of sutra and mantra recitation and offering white foods and materials for the bardo deliverance?
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white matter chanting is wake chanting where by we do dedication of chanting merits n bardo delivery of the newlt departed. in chinese tradition all wear black or white to show mourning n respect
in chinese red matter is auspicious like wedding birthday n etc
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GM teaches us to Purify Before Offering! 
From my article: Tainted Food - Lower realms spirits leave saliva on food when they get to the food first and most human are unable to see these. Therefore, as a form of sincerity & respect, I would think this is even more reason why we must listen to GM and Purify Before Offering. 

GM also said Divinities do not physically eat your offerings but YOUR SINCERITY & RESPECT IS THE KEY. 

As Xiaotian said: DL has good sense of humour. Hahaha! Don't eat then no strength to work!

This is very like those that second guess GM's thoughts and actions in my articles: Respect Guru and GM's proprietary rights......

GM also talks about offering to the Buddhas within oneself. Lotus Nino brought these up few months back. It is in my article on Internal & External Offering.

GM gave us so many reasons to do as he teaches, there is no reason why we should not listen to Gm in the first place and trust GM 100%, correct?

As for DL and those that choose to listen to her and follow her ways, their affinities with Dharma have yet to mature.


Amituofo / Lotuschef / Pure Karma / True Buddha School



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