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Funglie Huang In my humble opinion, although Shi Zun said so, but He is the "Guru". We are His Holiness disciple, it is our obligation defending our Lineage, our Mulacarya's honour. We should not defy our Samaya vow's by simply saying "because Guru don't fight back, will waste money etc", that is not the main point. We have read Shi Zun earlier books, how His Holiness pay honour to Milarepa, Tsongkhapa, refuting those malicious rumors. If, our Root Guru Himself demonstrate this action, why we as His Holiness disciple longing, thus acting pointless ignorant attitude?
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Wisely Huang The achieve guru yoga, your heart must be harmony and the same as Root Guru... If guru vow not to hurt sentient by taking court action, and we do the other way around means our heart is not the same as Guru and then we fail at guru yoga.
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Francesca Poon Hi wise, you are Right! Body Speech & Mind must be the same! Simple is the Key and the less said the better. Learn from the 3 most recent arrows - writing lots, don't equal to Complete Understanding of what One is writing, agree? Hahaha!
2 hours ago · Like
Wisely Huang I remember SZ said that he vow not to take legal action, but if disciple decide want to take the court then it's their choice. I personally see this as a warning from Guru.
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Adrian Beh does your TBS centre give out complimentary English TBS books? I take refuge in TBS five years ago can't find any english books...........
2 hours ago · Like
Funglie Huang I must say this is so disheartening, especially read the comment above from my fellow Indonesia Dharma brother... I pray to His Holiness may the Light bestow upon you, brother.
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Funglie Huang I quote below part of His Holiness Dharma speech on 29 June 2013 , hopefully this can shed some "light". Do use google translate if this not your language.
"我們學佛法，也是要用全盤的角度來看，而不是用一個角度來看。像今天我講的，宗委會的角度跟師尊的角度是不一樣的。師尊的角度是無所謂，不告人。但是以宗委會的角度，必須是要護持整個宗派的。師尊講不告人，並不是叫所有真佛宗的弟子不告人，都被人家告。你說你不告人，但是，人家告你啊！還有呢？另外一個問題，像是夫妻離婚的時候，怎麼辦？你說，你學佛了，全部給對方了，你肯嗎？他／她要全部拿走啊！你怎麼辦？所以，在這個角度上，你就必須要訴訟。對不對？師尊的角度是無所謂，無生法忍，我可以不告人；宗委會的角度是要以全盤來看的，這些人是在斷人慧命啊！宗委會怎麼沒有出來呢？師尊是不告人的，但是護法金剛宗委會要出來啊！我今天講的就是一個角度的問題，學佛要學全盤性的，師尊已經是學了全盤性的，師尊明心見性以後就發願「不告人，也不毀謗人」。師尊從來不毀謗人，也不想再批評別人，不想。但是，在宗委會的角度上就必須要這樣做，這是角度上的問題。今天就跟大家談到這裡，嗡嘛呢唄咪吽。"
http://tbsn.org/chinese2/talk.php?id=1553&classid=47
蓮生活佛各類開示:2013年蓮生活佛最新開示:2013-06-29《蓮生法王開示》大圓滿法人間第三祖師利星哈是西夏黨項族人tbsn.org
大圓滿法人間第三祖師利星哈是西夏黨項族人 我們首先敬禮傳承祖師，敬禮了鳴和尚、敬禮薩迦證空上師、敬禮十六世大寶法王噶瑪巴、敬禮吐登達爾吉上師，敬禮壇城三寶，敬禮同修本尊「地藏王菩薩」。敬禮吐登達爾吉上師。 師母，各位上師、教授師、法師、講師、助教、堂主，各位同門，還有網路上的同門。今天我們的貴賓是中華民國外交部國際組織司廖東周大使夫人Judy師姐，真佛宗宗務委員會會計師Teresa師姐
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Francesca Poon Hahaha! Hi wise, each one has own viewpoint and also understanding & interpretation of Guru's statements. No further comment is the best lol! Mid-path!
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Francesca Poon As to Guru Yoga, the one that truly can link with their own Root Guru, knows their own individual truth!
Funglie Huang In my humble opinion, although Shi Zun said so, but He is the "Guru". We are His Holiness disciple, it is our obligation defending our Lineage, our Mulacarya's honour. We should not defy our Samaya vow's by simply saying "because Guru don't fight back, will waste money etc", that is not the main point. We have read Shi Zun earlier books, how His Holiness pay honour to Milarepa, Tsongkhapa, refuting those malicious rumors. If, our Root Guru Himself demonstrate this action, why we as His Holiness disciple longing, thus acting pointless ignorant attitude?
7 hours ago · Like · 1
Wisely Huang The achieve guru yoga, your heart must be harmony and the same as Root Guru... If guru vow not to hurt sentient by taking court action, and we do the other way around means our heart is not the same as Guru and then we fail at guru yoga.
2 hours ago · Like
Francesca Poon Hi wise, you are Right! Body Speech & Mind must be the same! Simple is the Key and the less said the better. Learn from the 3 most recent arrows - writing lots, don't equal to Complete Understanding of what One is writing, agree? Hahaha!
2 hours ago · Like
Wisely Huang I remember SZ said that he vow not to take legal action, but if disciple decide want to take the court then it's their choice. I personally see this as a warning from Guru.
2 hours ago · Like
Adrian Beh does your TBS centre give out complimentary English TBS books? I take refuge in TBS five years ago can't find any english books...........
2 hours ago · Like
Funglie Huang I must say this is so disheartening, especially read the comment above from my fellow Indonesia Dharma brother... I pray to His Holiness may the Light bestow upon you, brother.
about an hour ago · Like
Funglie Huang I quote below part of His Holiness Dharma speech on 29 June 2013 , hopefully this can shed some "light". Do use google translate if this not your language.
"我們學佛法，也是要用全盤的角度來看，而不是用一個角度來看。像今天我講的，宗委會的角度跟師尊的角度是不一樣的。師尊的角度是無所謂，不告人。但是以宗委會的角度，必須是要護持整個宗派的。師尊講不告人，並不是叫所有真佛宗的弟子不告人，都被人家告。你說你不告人，但是，人家告你啊！還有呢？另外一個問題，像是夫妻離婚的時候，怎麼辦？你說，你學佛了，全部給對方了，你肯嗎？他／她要全部拿走啊！你怎麼辦？所以，在這個角度上，你就必須要訴訟。對不對？師尊的角度是無所謂，無生法忍，我可以不告人；宗委會的角度是要以全盤來看的，這些人是在斷人慧命啊！宗委會怎麼沒有出來呢？師尊是不告人的，但是護法金剛宗委會要出來啊！我今天講的就是一個角度的問題，學佛要學全盤性的，師尊已經是學了全盤性的，師尊明心見性以後就發願「不告人，也不毀謗人」。師尊從來不毀謗人，也不想再批評別人，不想。但是，在宗委會的角度上就必須要這樣做，這是角度上的問題。今天就跟大家談到這裡，嗡嘛呢唄咪吽。"
http://tbsn.org/chinese2/talk.php?id=1553&classid=47
蓮生活佛各類開示:2013年蓮生活佛最新開示:2013-06-29《蓮生法王開示》大圓滿法人間第三祖師利星哈是西夏黨項族人tbsn.org
大圓滿法人間第三祖師利星哈是西夏黨項族人 我們首先敬禮傳承祖師，敬禮了鳴和尚、敬禮薩迦證空上師、敬禮十六世大寶法王噶瑪巴、敬禮吐登達爾吉上師，敬禮壇城三寶，敬禮同修本尊「地藏王菩薩」。敬禮吐登達爾吉上師。 師母，各位上師、教授師、法師、講師、助教、堂主，各位同門，還有網路上的同門。今天我們的貴賓是中華民國外交部國際組織司廖東周大使夫人Judy師姐，真佛宗宗務委員會會計師Teresa師姐
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Francesca Poon Hahaha! Hi wise, each one has own viewpoint and also understanding & interpretation of Guru's statements. No further comment is the best lol! Mid-path!
9 minutes ago · Like
Francesca Poon As to Guru Yoga, the one that truly can link with their own Root Guru, knows their own individual truth!
PKV: A person should learn to express himself/herself adequately when going into a Dharma Discussion or Chat.
Moreover, avoid deviation from Topic chosen. :)
[Funglie Huang I must say this is so disheartening, especially read the comment above from my fellow Indonesia Dharma brother... I pray to His Holiness may the Light bestow upon you, brother.] This comment is truly uncalled for one hurled at a member of the chat he initiated; as it implies that writer expect that his Views be taken as the Final one and End of discussion!
Hahaha!
SZ talks about Liberation from Sentient Suffering, how much have you or you grasped?
In Tantrayana, Simplicity is a Crucial Key.
If you can project your views, shortly and sweetly and with substance, you are almost THERE!
THERE = Enlightenment!
Dear all, remember Lotus JY?
Well, he used various WHOLE speeches of SZ in educating others that don't see eye to eye with him.
:) I said if he can put across what is [No Thought] in under 20 Chinese characters; he truly understand [No Thought] thoroughly, remember?
Most Freshly, the 3 arrows for enlightenment quest.
Too widespread and not Focus.
FOCUS! Pinpoint!
Don't confuse self and get entangled! :)
Cheers all
Om Guru Lian Sheng Siddhi Hom
Lama Lotuschef
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